Project Managment Experience

Submitted by jvedant on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 22:21

Hello All,

 

I am thinking of getting PMP certification and have done some research in the past to get more understanding of the requirments before applying.

Now, after doing some digging on to the topic of eligibility requirements, I still have following question left out, I would appreciate if somebody could clear that for me?

First off my back ground:

I have total of 4 years and few months of Professional Engineering Experience (Systems Engineer- Requirement analysis, Testing based on req etc etc), also have Master degree in Engineering.

Following are my questions based on the main Elgibility criteria stated by PMI which ARE AS FOLLOWS:

Eligibility Criteria:"A four-year degree (bachelor’s or the global equivalent) and at least three years of project management experience, with 4,500 hours leading and directing projects and 35 hours of project management education."
 

  • Although I satisfy the education and can earn the 35 hours of project managment education, my main problem is understanding the 3 years of project management experience, which i believe does not need to be a project manager? is that right?
  • If my assumptions are right, I might have involved in a project where I could have been Project contributor, lead for a task..basically executed the project, planned for execution, controlling certain aspect and finally closed..not necessarly need to be a Project Manager for a Project? ALL IT NEEDS TO BE IS PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT PART IN PROJECT?
  • Lastly, 4500 hrs of leading and directing of project tasks, can in it occur in the 3 years time or is this something exclusive to the above 3 years time period?

Sorry for being very long, I wanted to be clear in my thghts, so that people could understand me better. I appreciate any response, would like to thank the concern authority in advance.

 Thanks,

JV

 

 

 
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jvedant

Wed, 02/08/2012 - 16:15

Could somebody shed some light on the above query? Thanks.

JV

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Thu, 02/09/2012 - 04:56

Yes you dont need to be designated as PM. you need 4500 hours of PM experience and it should be spread over 3 years or more. It may not be exclusive thing you do in your work, it can be part of your job.

jvedant

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 15:52

Thanks for the valuable input, I appreicate it.

 

 

adishail

Fri, 02/10/2012 - 22:40


You do not have to have the PM designation. However, PMI evaluates the kind of work you do to judge if it can be counted towards the PMP requirement.


Importantly, a lot of people try to use their exp as part of the project team for PMP and it does not work. For example, if the project is to repair a car and I am an engineer in the team. If I open up the car and fixed it does not mean I can use all the time for this project towards the PMP. The technical time can not be used (not even by putting it under contributor). The time you are putting - whether as a PM or Lead or Contributor, has to be within the scope of project management. If you are a designer/architect and all your time in the project was spend of designing the building - you can not use it for the PMP experience.


What really matters is that if you get audited, the reference should be able to verify that you did do project management - irrespective of your title/designation.


jvedant

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 01:03

 " The time you are putting - whether as a PM or Lead or Contributor, has to be within the scope of project management."

 

Could you please elaborate on this? It is not very clear. Thanks.

adishail

Sun, 02/19/2012 - 20:38

When I said - "within the scope of project management" ................ I meant to say that the time you are using for PMP application has to be PM experience ................... not technical/engineering experience. If you spent 100 hours working on a drawing or a technical document in the project ......... you can not use that as PM experience.


Good Luck.

jvedant

Tue, 02/21/2012 - 21:28

Thank you for your response.

" meant to say that the time you are using for PMP application has to be PM experience ................... not technical/engineering experience. If you spent 100 hours working on a drawing or a technical document in the project ......... you can not use that as PM experience."

based on the above response, it would be great if you can answer the following: One of the process in the 5 process group is Execution:

In the execution group, PMI has defined following as the list of activities :

Execute the tasks defined in the project plan in order to acheive the project goals : for example 100 hrs spend on creating a  technical document for a project in order achieve the project objective"...does it not count towards PM experience?  Correct me If I am wrong, looks like what you are saying is not totally correct?

Implement approved changes according to the change management plan: for example: if there was change identified and was apporved....one of the stake holders has to execute this change.....again this change might be design change..due to which ...u need to change the documentation etc etc...now if you spent 100 hrs documenting to implement this change....does it not count towardsPM experience? Correct me If I am wrong, looks like what you are saying is not totally correct?

similarly....Implement the approved actions and workaround required to minimize the impact on the project risks??

What I understand is that PMI is looking for range of experience through all process group?  so may be in one project i might have just intiating, execution, monitoring and controlling , other areas shall be covered in other project experiences? let me know what you think, by this way I might cover all the process group, also make sure by doing that i cover 4500 hrs.

 Regards,

JV